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Post by horse on Aug 2, 2008 12:56:40 GMT -6
I think we should pressure Donkey then as he is here and we can at least get some where with it. I blocked him last night.
Lynch: Donkey
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Post by snake on Aug 2, 2008 13:01:21 GMT -6
I can go with that.
Change Vote: Donkey
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Post by horse on Aug 2, 2008 13:06:07 GMT -6
Him getting off right when I post that isn't helping his case either
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Post by snake on Aug 2, 2008 13:08:33 GMT -6
This is a 48 hour phase right?
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Post by Alpha on Aug 2, 2008 13:14:48 GMT -6
Why would it be?
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Post by donkey on Aug 2, 2008 13:18:09 GMT -6
I'm not killer. That oughta settle that.  |
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Post by scorpian on Aug 2, 2008 13:32:49 GMT -6
Why would we pressure Donkey when he was blocked. He is not one of the killers, he is not Molly....there wasn't any sense that a killer was blocked, was it?
Why would you out yourself as a RBer as well??? We cannot give those kids any more help than they can get!
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Post by rabbit on Aug 2, 2008 13:36:25 GMT -6
There might be a chance that Piledriver died because he had one vote on him. In lost mafia one of the players died for only having one person vote for them--maybe that's what happens with the wrecking crew as well.
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Post by chicken on Aug 2, 2008 13:37:43 GMT -6
Or maybe Gert has a daykill power?
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Post by snake on Aug 2, 2008 13:41:03 GMT -6
Because it's the weekend. But I suppose that answers that. Why would we pressure Donkey when he was blocked. He is not one of the killers, he is not Molly....there wasn't any sense that a killer was blocked, was it? Why would you out yourself as a RBer as well??? We cannot give those kids any more help than they can get! The Runaways made a hit today. There were two kills, probably a vigilante and a serial killer. The Loners didn't take anybody out. Thus, a roleblocked player has a decent chance of being the Loners' hitperson. |
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Post by snake on Aug 2, 2008 13:42:38 GMT -6
We only have about 6 hours in that case.
I dislike Donkey's uncooperativeness. I think we need more votes.
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Post by rabbit on Aug 2, 2008 13:48:14 GMT -6
Because it's the weekend. But I suppose that answers that. Why would we pressure Donkey when he was blocked. He is not one of the killers, he is not Molly....there wasn't any sense that a killer was blocked, was it? Why would you out yourself as a RBer as well??? We cannot give those kids any more help than they can get! The Runaways made a hit today. There were two kills, probably a vigilante and a serial killer. The Loners didn't take anybody out. Thus, a roleblocked player has a decent chance of being the Loners' hitperson. Alright, I follow your reasoning. Vote: Lynch Donkey Start talking sir. If you're a townie and you stall out the rest of the day phase waiting for more people to pressure you into talking, you're only helping the mafia, so you might as well talk now. |
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Post by donkey on Aug 2, 2008 13:48:30 GMT -6
We only have about 6 hours in that case. I dislike Donkey's uncooperativeness. I think we need more votes. Uncooperativeness? I don't think that's actually the case. I mean, I have two votes on me. I see no reason to claim. |
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Post by horse on Aug 2, 2008 13:48:43 GMT -6
Why would we pressure Donkey when he was blocked. He is not one of the killers, he is not Molly....there wasn't any sense that a killer was blocked, was it? Why would you out yourself as a RBer as well??? We cannot give those kids any more help than they can get! Why do you jump to his defense? And he could have attempted a kill since the loners didn't make a hit and the Runaways only made a day kill. |
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Post by snake on Aug 2, 2008 13:52:09 GMT -6
We only have about 6 hours in that case. I dislike Donkey's uncooperativeness. I think we need more votes. Uncooperativeness? I don't think that's actually the case. I mean, I have two votes on me. I see no reason to claim. Have it your way. When a lynch vote stalls out like it probably will today, the vigilante usually cleans up the mess the town was unwilling or unable to take care of. |
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Post by donkey on Aug 2, 2008 13:54:27 GMT -6
Uncooperativeness? I don't think that's actually the case. I mean, I have two votes on me. I see no reason to claim. Have it your way. When a lynch vote stalls out like it probably will today, the vigilante usually cleans up the mess the town was unwilling or unable to take care of. Yes, because our vigilante would kill someone based on incomplete evidence. I hope our vigilante knows better than that. You're guessing I'm mafia. I'm sure there are plenty of ways to either confirm that or deny it that don't involve wasting a vig kill. |
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Post by snake on Aug 2, 2008 13:56:40 GMT -6
Well I don't see any other amazing targets for our vigilante.
Do you?
Being roleblocked when we're 90% sure the Loners hitperson was roleblocked and being unwilling to claim at all makes you more suspicious than anybody else here.
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Post by donkey on Aug 2, 2008 13:58:57 GMT -6
Well I don't see any other amazing targets for our vigilante. Do you? Being roleblocked when we're 90% sure the Loners hitperson was roleblocked and being unwilling to claim at all makes you more suspicious than anybody else here. Because there is no reason to claim! You need ten more votes to even lynch me, and we only about 5 hours left in the day! You're the one pushing this too hard. 3 votes at this point in the day is hardly enough to convince anyone to claim. And what if we have two roleblockers? I mean, according to you, we have 4 killers, so two roleblockers isn't out of the question. |
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Post by rabbit on Aug 2, 2008 14:02:12 GMT -6
Well I don't see any other amazing targets for our vigilante. Do you? Being roleblocked when we're 90% sure the Loners hitperson was roleblocked and being unwilling to claim at all makes you more suspicious than anybody else here. Because there is no reason to claim! You need ten more votes to even lynch me, and we only about 5 hours left in the day! You're the one pushing this too hard. 3 votes at this point in the day is hardly enough to convince anyone to claim. And what if we have two roleblockers? I mean, according to you, we have 4 killers, so two roleblockers isn't out of the question. I agree with snake. Like it or not, if you don't claim you'll probably be vig food tonight. If you claim and you're a townie you at least stand a chance of being protected. |
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Post by snake on Aug 2, 2008 14:03:15 GMT -6
We have 4 killers per night on opposite sides.
It's possible the mafia roleblocker or the jailkeeper got you or a doctor prevented the hit.
But "There might be another explanation! lol" never convinced me to take my vote off anybody.
And there is a reason to claim. There is evidence against you. It isn't completely condemning, but you not giving us anything and having somebody else randomly stick up for you (mafia teamate perhaps?) make that circustancial evidence look a lot stronger.
If you don't claim and you don't die at night, we've completely and totally wasted this day phase.
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Post by giraffe on Aug 2, 2008 14:06:53 GMT -6
Wow...this thread was fairly dead until we put a little pressure on Cat.
Now it's shot off in all directions.
But the Cat hasn't come back.
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Post by rabbit on Aug 2, 2008 14:07:30 GMT -6
Well I don't see any other amazing targets for our vigilante. Do you? Being roleblocked when we're 90% sure the Loners hitperson was roleblocked and being unwilling to claim at all makes you more suspicious than anybody else here. Because there is no reason to claim! You need ten more votes to even lynch me, and we only about 5 hours left in the day! You're the one pushing this too hard. 3 votes at this point in the day is hardly enough to convince anyone to claim. And what if we have two roleblockers? I mean, according to you, we have 4 killers, so two roleblockers isn't out of the question. If we have two townie roleblockers I suspect the second one would come forward and tell us their target. |
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Post by snake on Aug 2, 2008 14:09:27 GMT -6
Wow...this thread was fairly dead until we put a little pressure on Cat. Now it's shot off in all directions. But the Cat hasn't come back. Doesn't matter. I'm not saying the Cat is town but the arguement against Cat is flawed. I have no stronger reason to suspect Cat than say Turtle or Eagle. We have actual evidence against Donkey. But I can't help but notice your vote is still on Cat. |
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Post by giraffe on Aug 2, 2008 14:11:25 GMT -6
Oh...I thought I'd caught up, but I've missed that.
What evidence?
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Post by scorpian on Aug 2, 2008 14:16:09 GMT -6
Why would we pressure Donkey when he was blocked. He is not one of the killers, he is not Molly....there wasn't any sense that a killer was blocked, was it? Why would you out yourself as a RBer as well??? We cannot give those kids any more help than they can get! Why do you jump to his defense? And he could have attempted a kill since the loners didn't make a hit and the Runaways only made a day kill. Because more than likely, Gert did a day kill or had some sort of post bomb/timing bomb power. That is my thought about it. Second, I don't see a RB in the write up - none of the killers made a RB. Third, Wrecking Crew was Town but listed as Wrecking Crew. Lones was mafia but listed as Loners/Mafia. Which indicates to me that we have a "mafia" made of different "figures" - Runaways, Loners, maybe Dagger and Cloak, maybe Young Avengers...I have no idea. But I don't think that Loners = separate mafia. Would this mean we have separate towns? No, we have a SK hit last night and a mafia hit - I think the mafia made the hit against Alex, the SK made the hit against the Loners dude. That is how I see it for right now. You are going after Donkey for being RBed - sure, he might be mafia, but his RB does not mean, to me, that he is mafia. Flawed logic, IMO. |
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Post by eagle on Aug 2, 2008 14:16:32 GMT -6
I'm not liking donkey's tone.
Lynch: Donkey
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Post by horse on Aug 2, 2008 14:21:53 GMT -6
Why do you jump to his defense? And he could have attempted a kill since the loners didn't make a hit and the Runaways only made a day kill. Because more than likely, Gert did a day kill or had some sort of post bomb/timing bomb power. That is my thought about it. Second, I don't see a RB in the write up - none of the killers made a RB. Third, Wrecking Crew was Town but listed as Wrecking Crew. Lones was mafia but listed as Loners/Mafia. Which indicates to me that we have a "mafia" made of different "figures" - Runaways, Loners, maybe Dagger and Cloak, maybe Young Avengers...I have no idea. But I don't think that Loners = separate mafia. Would this mean we have separate towns? No, we have a SK hit last night and a mafia hit - I think the mafia made the hit against Alex, the SK made the hit against the Loners dude. That is how I see it for right now. You are going after Donkey for being RBed - sure, he might be mafia, but his RB does not mean, to me, that he is mafia. Flawed logic, IMO. Actually that second looks like vig because it looks like it is Geoffery Wilder (AKA Alex's Dad) who would be town. |
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Post by snake on Aug 2, 2008 14:27:06 GMT -6
Why do you jump to his defense? And he could have attempted a kill since the loners didn't make a hit and the Runaways only made a day kill. Because more than likely, Gert did a day kill or had some sort of post bomb/timing bomb power. That is my thought about it. Second, I don't see a RB in the write up - none of the killers made a RB. Third, Wrecking Crew was Town but listed as Wrecking Crew. Lones was mafia but listed as Loners/Mafia. Which indicates to me that we have a "mafia" made of different "figures" - Runaways, Loners, maybe Dagger and Cloak, maybe Young Avengers...I have no idea. But I don't think that Loners = separate mafia. Would this mean we have separate towns? No, we have a SK hit last night and a mafia hit - I think the mafia made the hit against Alex, the SK made the hit against the Loners dude. That is how I see it for right now. You are going after Donkey for being RBed - sure, he might be mafia, but his RB does not mean, to me, that he is mafia. Flawed logic, IMO. Keep sticking up for your mafia teammate.  I agree with you on the day kill by Gert, probably replacing the mafia hit. As for no roleblock in the writeup, Mags has stated numerous times that he hates it when roles that aren't cops are treated like cops. That is, non investigators like roleblockers are not shown in the writeup targeting mafia members. As for the idea that seperate groups make up the town means that seperate groups make up one mafia, I strongly disagree. The town is made up of Runaway enemies. The Pride, the Wrecking Crew, etc. The mafia is made up of the Runaways (5 to 8 of them, no reason for Mags to leave out main characters and replace them with Runaway allies) and a seperate mafia is made up of the Losers. I disagree with the thought process that the Losers killed Alex. The Losers are heroes. Like the Runaways, they won't be killing players, just removing them from the game. Plus the hit on Hulk's little buddy seems a lot like a vigilante kill to me. |
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Post by snake on Aug 2, 2008 14:27:45 GMT -6
Actually that second looks like vig because it looks like it is Geoffery Wilder (AKA Alex's Dad) who would be town. I was thinking the exact same thing. |
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Post by scorpian on Aug 2, 2008 14:28:24 GMT -6
(reading write up again.....)
Is that Geoffrey?? Shooting Jones? I thought that was the SK....who I had no idea who that would be.
My thought is that the Runaways (being children and the goodies) would be "arresting", not killing. Hence, they went after Alex Wilder - who looks like he got "caught" or something, not killed.
Of course, Gert killed Piledriver....I think...mauled. Sad for Rokk....
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